![]() And if one wants to really get technical the clubs in my signature are "non conforming" but they do not give me any advantage. Myself one of the reasons I do not do leagues etc around here too much cheating and bickering. His motto is that he can beat them despite their cheating and sandbagging and he can look at himself in the mirror every morning. He has a couple of overall wins in is age and handicap brackets too over the years. He is no rookie either being 80 yoa and has played in every World Am Handicap event since it started. Like he and I have stated many times no one at our club will play he and I in a down match for money because they know they can not beat us. As our rules state we putt out everything but most don't. In our weekly Shootouts there is rampart cheating. Something my old man always instilled in me as a Pro and big stakes gambler "all ways square your actions with your fellow players" and no he was not a Mason either. Me I will hit it simply because I have played so much stipulated golf and down matches I know from experience how to clip a ball off a root or rock. ![]() I mean if either one of us are playing with someone we certainly would not insist someone hitting off a tree root and hurting themself for any reason. His point was that a guy he was playing with was constantly shaving strokes darn near every hole. Now I am not exactly a rules Nazi and either is he. He is now thinking about quitting that game. He was all distraught about the rampart cheating and sand bagging going on. I will stress the fact again he was a straight shooter. He joined the VFW league a couple of weeks ago. Talked to one of my scramble partners last night on the phone. If most people think they can get away with something, they will try it. This often included kids who cut deals with opposing players to shave equal numbers of strokes so they wouldn't be stuck in challenge matches with teammates for the next match (something my players told me they also saw in our league). My son played 4 years of varsity golf in a nearby league and said he never once played with any kid who didn't at least try to cheat at least once in every match. Many admitted when confronted that they did it because they (correctly in most cases) assumed that the coaches watching them didn't know the rules well enough to correct them. The others tried to cheat brazenly or, more often, twist the rules to their benefit. One was the aforementioned HOFer and the other also won a state championship. In all those years, there were exactly two players who I never saw try anything shady. I coached high school golf for 25 years in a league that sent dozens of players to top rated D1 college programs, including one who is a shoo in future world golf HOFer. These are just 2 examples that come immediately to mind. If it had just settled down a fraction, I could believe that he was unaware, but it also rotated a fraction, something that someone with his eyesight couldn't have missed. And a few years back at the Masters, we saw tiger woods play on when his ball clearly moved at address. Who is under more scrutiny than top tour players? And yet we saw Patrick Reed clearly sweep sand from behind his ball in a bunker.
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